Sunday 25 October 2020

Sanyo RP 8880 Receiver

My dad bought this about 40 years ago, and I finally got around to making it work again in 2017. It is an interesting set, with "short wave" (HF) coverage from 2.3 MHz to 30 MHz (with a gap around 10.7 MHz for the IF) as well as the more conventional LW, MW FM and "marine band" (1.6 to 2.3 MHz). It's a pretty complicated radio with some unusual features.
 

 Removing the back cover reveals most of the workings:
 
 
I did find a service manual online, but the schematic required some cleaning up before I could follow it. I don't want to publish the entire thing for fear of breaching Sanyo's copyright, which is unfortunate.
 
In "short wave" mode, the signal path appears to be:
  • Antenna
  • Q106 RF amplifier
  • Pre-selectors L113 to L117 for SW1 to SW5 bands respectively.
  • Q107 & T103 mix to 10.7 MHz. Local oscillator is Q108.
  • Q109 10.7 MHz IF amplifier.
  • 10.7 MHz ceramic filters CF101 & CF102.
  • Q110 & T304 mix to 455 kHz. Local oscillator is Q111 & L120, adjustable by bandspread (VC4).
  • Q302 & Q303 455 kHz IF gain.
  • CF302 & CF303 if "narrow" selected.
  • Q305 & T305 455 kHz IF gain.
  • D307 drives the AGC & D308 detects the audio.

 Issues Found

  1. Dirty switches. A squirt of contact cleaner and some exercise solved this issue.
  2. FM band was dead. This turned out to be Q103 (2SC930D), the local oscillator transistor. This had insufficient gain and was replaced with a SS9018G. Realignment of the oscillator was then required.
  3. I also replaced Q108, another 2SC930D functioning as the short wave local oscillator. This required realignment of all five bands.
  4. The ceramic filters seem to have drifted over time. This requires that the IF is aligned to this new frequency. I should have realised this before aligning the oscillators as I had to do that again!
  5. The bandwidth of the FM IF is too narrow for good reception. This is due to the ceramic resonators used. The radio shares some IF stages in different bands, so compromises are inevitable.
  6. The "SW5" band (20 to 30 MHz) is very sensitive to the position of the band select switch. Switch cleaner did not improve this, and I am reluctant to try to dismantle the switch for fear of doing more harm than good.


Low Gain 2SC930D Transistors

It would appear that the 2SC930D transistors used in this and other receivers lose their gain over time. I had not encountered this before. I replaced some of them and measured the gains of those I removed.
 
Q303 2sc930d gain measured at 31.
Q302 2sc930e gain measured at 34.
Q305 2sc930d gain measured at 33.

Q302 was replaced with a BC550CBU, the others with SS9018G. A 2sc930e should have a gain of 100 to 200. The BC550CBU I used measured over 500!
 

Ceramic Filter Drift

The manual gives two figures for the 2nd IF centre frequency: 455 KHz and 460 KHz depending on where you look. I think it is more likely to be 455 KHz as this is more common. I found the centre frequency of the ceramic filters to be 472.5 kHz, and I adjusted the second IF to that. This is 3.74% error, well out of the specifications that I found, ±0.5% plus ±0.3% ageing over 10 years typically. But then this receiver is about 40 years old! Elsewhere in the manual (the front cover and the resonator part number on the schematic) is suggests the 2nd IF is 460 kHz. In this case, the error is 2.61%. In either case there is a significant error.
 

Using An Even Older Signal Generator!

Using my ancient AVO Mk. 3 signal generator (right) to align the IF stages. This piece of equipment is much older than the radio - so old it has a valve in it! It works well though, so I am inclined to keep using it.
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 

Conclusion

Having spent a huge amount of time on this set, it feels like time to call it a day. All bands work and are about as aligned as I can make it. Outstanding issues are:
  1. The signal strength meter reads very low on the FM band. I think this has been an issue from new, as the corresponding preset was set at the maximum setting.
  2. The "Band Spread" dial calibration is poor. It is fine around zero, but is progressively inaccurate as the frequency is increased. Generally, the band spread feature doesn't seem that useful anyway. Attempting to correct this with the relevant oscillator tuned circuit results in running out of capacitance adjustment range.
  3. Something is wrong with the BFO circuit as attempting to align this according to the manual reveals a tuned circuit with no effect. However, SSB signals can be heard well enough so I didn't pursue it.
  4. I have no good way of measuring the sensitivity, but suspect that it isn't as good as suggested in the manual. It would be interesting to try it with a calibrated source of some sort.
 

10 comments:

  1. Hi!
    My dad gave me this radio to repair it last week. Luckly was just some dirt in volume potentiometer so I fixed it, but I was amazed by the device when a remove front and back cover (I had to, to reach the potentiometer)
    He've never been "into" radios, but I wonder if you could send me the schematics so next time I can also make some adjustments and tunning.

    Very nice post!

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  2. Wow, great blog! I have here 2 x Sanyo RP-8880, and also have the feeling the sensitivity is not optimal. I also wanted to start with repair, but now I've read your blog, I will not even start with this. I was hoping just replacing some elco's but when the transistors are so bad, I will cancel this operation. Thanks Jan.

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  3. where is this the FM part?
    FM band was dead. This turned out to be Q103 (2SC930D), the local oscillator transistor. This had insufficient gain and was replaced with a SS9018G. Realignment of the oscillator was then required.

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  4. Bonjour et merci pour ce blog qui m'aide dans la restauration du mien!!

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  5. Thanks for the information. I have just bought one. The FM is working great; The switches need cleaning; On AM mode (MW and SW), the audio is very weak despite the SMETER shows regular signal level. The main power supply needs repair. Now I will follow the service manual and your tips to finish the restoration. Thanks.

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  6. Hello and congratulations on the Sanyo RP8880 radio article. I have the same device and I am reading radio books because I don't have much knowledge of electronics. I want to repair it and I wanted to ask if it is possible that you could send me by mail the diagrams that you used in the repair, if you would be so kind you would help me in this task. I will start with the transistors and I will see the settings, etc, it is an arduous task for me, but I like the challenge, Thanks again, Regards Jose Manuel

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    1. Hi Jose. You can find a copy of the service manual online. However, this is a complex radio and I strongly recommend that you start with something much simpler. Something like the Roberts R200 I wrote about in another post would be a good start. You will also need a signal generator and other equipment to perform the alignment, which is absolutely required after changing many of the components. Good luck!

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  7. Hello, what instruments did you use to calibrate the equipment?

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    1. Hi Cláudio. From what I recall, I used a signal generator, oscilloscope and digital multimeter (DMM). I also looked at the FM IF using a Funcube Pro + receiver, which is how I diagnosed the bandwidth issue there. At minimum, you will need a DMM and signal generator.

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  8. Thank you for publishing this. I actually was researching what the i.f. frequencies were and I found the manual for the sister radio rp-8700 which is packaged differently than the 8800. I disagree with your assessment of the copyright on manuals because like phone books they're presenting facts and are not really a creative work. Additionally today's society cowers in fear from what should be "fair use" anyway.

    Regardless I suggest that you upload your manual for others to visit as if a library to archive.org. They are equipped to deal with any foolishness that might come this way over this manual for an out of production radio.

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